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    Default 5 strand barbed or 3 strand electric high tensil.

    What do you all think is better to use. I understand that electric is not practical in remote extensive areas and is why barbed is used most widely on range land, but all things being equal what do you think is better? I seem to be finding out on my operation that electric high tensile seems cheaper, faster to install, and better to keep cows in - my cows are all trained well to electric, seems with barbed wire I am always wondering on my remote pastures if everything is still there, one strand electric of polywire they won't even go over.

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    Lightning doesn't knock out a barbed wire fence. I have a lot of electric fence and have had trouble with stolen batterys and storms and seems like every time it storms the power goes off around here that kills the 110 fence charger.

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    Default 5 strand barb

    Im not a hig tensil fan just because you need electicity, If the power goes out so can your cows, I can see where it can be nice for somethings like for dividing lots for rotational grazing, But as far as bondery fence goes its hard to beat wooven wire but where theirs no cattle pressure i really like 5 strand barbwire. I know that doesnt answer your question but just giving you my opinion.
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    Woven wire is cost prohibitive to use on large pastures, that is why I am comparing the two types of fence.

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    if by woven wire you are referring to wire rope or aircraft cable then I'm with hayray, it is too expensive.
    I use a combination of methods.

    Outer boundaries are 4 wire barbed wire fence spaced @ mid calf, knee, hip & nipple (pretty scientific!)
    If I am running along thick bush then I just use 3 wire barbed (mid calf, hip nipple).
    Inner pasture or cross fences might be 2 or 3 wire barbed or 2 strands of high tensile. All high tensile is electrified and some of the barbed might be electrified as well. Just depends upon the situation.

    To train the young stock we put tin foil on the electric fences. When they check it out they get a jolt. The dumb ones more than once, but they all get the message sooner or later.

    All barbed is on treated wood posts, tensile is on rebar posts with plastic standoffs

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    Here's a doc from Iowa Extension comparing the costs of some fencing setups. I really like how they break the costs of the different parts of the whole set up and how they compare the permenant fence options.

    http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Pub...ons/FM1855.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpNorth View Post
    Here's a doc from Iowa Extension comparing the costs of some fencing setups. I really like how they break the costs of the different parts of the whole set up and how they compare the permenant fence options.

    http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Pub...ons/FM1855.pdf
    Thanks, I looked at all the costs and they are pretty far off just on the one i looked at, I just looked at the wooven wire but it does give you somewhere to start, By way off i mean they are way to cheap, Fence can not be put up that cheap, by material prices and by labor if your paying a fencing crew to do the work, Just my 2 cents, Thanks agian.
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    On high tensile wire their cost are too high. Way too many brace post and post spaced too close and too many wires.

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    I did some fence line weaning this week and my calves blew through 6 strand barb wire gateway and went around the 3 strand electric high tensile. Made the gateway electric high tensile and then they went through 6 strands high tensile electric. So then I added ground wires and yesterday only had one steer go over the top. The frozen ground is making the electric not work well because the animals are not getting grounded. I added some neutral wires but of that only works if the calf is touching the hot and neutral at the same time.

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    Hayray

    That is a problem we face all winter. The electric fence is totally ineffective, for like you say they do not get to ground to complete the circuit. I have never had a calf go through a 3 strand barbed wire fence so they must have been some irritated to even challenge a 6 strand monster.

    As soon as you can get ground put some strips of tin foil on your electric fence. Those curious little buggers will check it out and get a good poke. They will remember that forever and will not even challenge the fence with the electric off.

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